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Observation Thread

Last post 05-27-2008, 16:57 by wings2c. 2153 replies.
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  •  05-18-2008, 17:53 3018628 in reply to 3018593

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    5:51, partly sunny and 85, wind NNW 8 MPH. Thunder laying in nest over to far right facing 3:00. Resting, eyes closed.
  •  05-18-2008, 18:53 3018775 in reply to 3018628

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    18:48 - H sitting on railing at 3 watching F try to pull a rather large stick into the nesting area.  F tries and tries to bring the stick into the nest but it is too long.  She almost knocked H out of the nest trying to place the stick.  Maybe she was trying to push H out since she won't do it on her own.Wink

    F is now on the platform outside the nest at 11.  H still at 3 looking at F, stretching.  F flies to rail just behine the dish and H jumps to railing at 9.  Both are looking out towards 11.

  •  05-18-2008, 18:54 3018778 in reply to 3018628

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    14:50 Thunder and Kay in nest bowl. Thunder at 9, housekeeping, and Thunder at 3 watching her. Kay has been arranging more stick material in the nest, several times bonking Thunder in the face with it, andThunder having to shift his/her (?) head aside each time. Now Kay has finished nest housekeeping and is sitting at 11 on outer deck, facing 12, and looking at Thunder. Thunder has moved left beam at 9 and is still watching Kay. Kay at 11 on platform looking out at 9 - 11.

  •  05-18-2008, 18:56 3018780 in reply to 3018778

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    Sorry again on the time in my last posting... Should have said 16:50 not 14:50... My brain is frying from this.
  •  05-18-2008, 18:58 3018788 in reply to 3018780

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    Oh man... I'm ready to fire myself from this job... I STILL got it wrong. I'm in California.... I REALLY meant to say that it was 18:50!!!

    Sorry.
  •  05-18-2008, 19:03 3018809 in reply to 3018788

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    19:00

    Both Kay (at 11 on platform) and Thunder (at 9 on beam) looking out towards 9 off in the distance.

    19:02

    Thunder just walked back into nest, and layed down next to 9 beam watching Kay who is still in her same spot.
  •  05-18-2008, 19:24 3018860 in reply to 3018809

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    1720 CA time...he is flapping his wings.
  •  05-18-2008, 19:51 3018920 in reply to 3018628

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    I have been watching from Illinois and have not read every entry in this forum but have read some. I am in touch with the Pale Male (see below) folks in NY City and have followed PM and Lola and the other NY City RTH nests for some years. If I am stating the obvious, please forgive me but I want Thunder to be safe. When a RTH first fledges it can barely glide, cannot fly, cannot gain elevation. I have seen today that there are roads and traffic around the tower. I surely hope you have live humans posted around the tower to protect the fledgling if he lands on a street or a car top. He will not understand cars or moving objects are dangerous to him. NY City lost a fledgling that way and now they have watchers when the eyasses are ready to fledge. Hopefully he/she will end up crash landing (and it will be a crash landing) in a tree and stay there, but may land on the ground and be unable to fly UP into the tree and be vulnerable to dogs, traffic, people, etc. His parents will feed him and encourage him up but will not attack on his behalf. They will be nearby and watching. He will not be physically able to get UP to any higher elevation than he lands for some days. Please contact Donna at Palemale Irregulars for any suggestions about how to protect new RTH fledglings? She should be more than willing to help. She is a PM bench sitter from day 1.  
  •  05-18-2008, 20:04 3018942 in reply to 3018920

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    Catbird, that is all very sobering, but I've a feeling we've all been worried about that very thing. I'm 1500 miles away, but my son is a TU student, and is a member of a service fraternity. They are all incredibly busy this summer with jobs, research, etc., but I'll see if they can get together and organize something on this hawk family's behalf.... It's doubtful, they can do it, but worth a try. Does anybody in Tulsa reading this know of a group willing to do this fledge-watch thing?

    20:02 Nest Time:

    Kay is nesting again with more stick arranging in nest bowl. Thunder is watching her from near ledge of deck (9)
  •  05-18-2008, 20:06 3018948 in reply to 3018920

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    This is wonderful information, Catbird. I am sure many of us are aware of the dangers. I have posed the question before. We, perhaps, have been afraid to verbalize them. My hesitancy in watching a fledge is having to watch the outcome. I have never seen a raptor fledge, but other birds. Some, were letal for those. Some I rescued and turned into rehabilitators when the parents didn't return for them. It is bittersweet and heartbreaking at time. I can't imagine this hawk landing in tree. They seem so far away for him. But, we are hopeful. We don't stop and think about their limited abilities once they land.

    Have you emailed, or called, the TV station? I know they are watching intently. Surely, there is a rehabilitator available in OK if needed. But, I am sure they would like to have this information. And, BYW, I have followed the Central Park Hawks, Pale Male and Lola especially, but not as intently as you. Amazing at the power nature has, at times, isn't it?

    Thanks for posting and feel free to educate us, as needed. If you don't want to call the station, or email them, I will! Tonight!  Heck...I will do it anyway.


    The human spirit needs places where nature has not been rearranged by the hand of man. ~Author Unknown
  •  05-18-2008, 20:17 3018967 in reply to 3018948

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    I sent this information to several emails at the station and asked that someone check into it. Or, at least contact a rehabilitator to have available.
    The human spirit needs places where nature has not been rearranged by the hand of man. ~Author Unknown
  •  05-18-2008, 20:23 3018980 in reply to 3018948

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    Please do contact the station. I am working and should not even be posting. :-(.

    Just because the parents are not visible when the eyass lands somewhere do not assume the eyass has been abandoned. They will stay away from her/him if humans are around but they will be watching and bring food to him for the next many weeks while he hunts rocks and sticks and learns how to catch and kill prey for himself. Last year PM and Lola's grand-baby landed in a street, was snatched up by a well meaning citizen and taken to a rehabber. Not injured, but parents were watching, circling, calling, for days and days and days. It took 10 days of persuading to get the NYC powers that be and the rehabber to put the baby back in Central Park nearest the nest.Our fear was that the parents would forget. Fortunately when the eyass was released he called out, and the parents heard, and immediately called back to him and started bringing food and re-bonding with him. So please do not interfere unless it is observed carefully that the parents are not feeding it or watching. If it lands on a car roof or in a street or other dangerous place, use a towel or light blanket to capture the eyass and put him up in a treed area, near the nest, on a low branch of a tree. Contact Donna at Palemale Irregulars for better information. She is the scientist and observer. I am but a reader.

  •  05-18-2008, 20:28 3018993 in reply to 3018980

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    Postscript:

    The lives of city/town-fledged RTHs is more dangerous than those who fledge from rural areas, from trees not so high as this TV tower nor fraught with the dangers of cars and dogs etc. NYC had all three eyasses in a nest (the Riverside nest) die last weekend because their parents fed them a rat which apparenlty had been poisoned. Tox screens pending. And all three babies died overnight. We are all heartsick. That would not be a potential danger to a rural fledged RTH, but poisons and cars and people and dogs etc are dangers new to this new nesting environment of the RTHs who are nesting in human-occupied environments. We need to help them adapt to this more dangerous environment.

  •  05-18-2008, 20:40 3019017 in reply to 3018993

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    Thanks again. Information forwarded to TV station. I haven't had a response to the first one yet.

    8:40 I hope that is coax they are tugging on. Huh?


    The human spirit needs places where nature has not been rearranged by the hand of man. ~Author Unknown
  •  05-18-2008, 20:46 3019035 in reply to 3019017

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    20:43 Adult left nest. H flailing all over the area with wings extended. Stops on platform at 11:00 looking out. then turns facing inward.
    The human spirit needs places where nature has not been rearranged by the hand of man. ~Author Unknown
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